Sunday, June 8, 2008

Discussion - Location & Shooting Style

Since some of you didn't notice the tiny little video bar below the chatbox (I know Joey didn't) so here are the videos and perhaps some format that we may adopt. Enjoy them.









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Jackie (quoted from his blog) "nice location? im thinking at various locations around uni...can ah?? ehhehe..coz if its going to be something to remember..let it be our uni days...and with UTP as backdrop...that's the best location i think.."


What do you think?

Great news guys. Power Director can mute sounds from video. Now we can have one less thing to worry. No need to just sync lips. We can sing on actual shooting and don't have to worry about background noises. We can interlace our separate recorded singing later.

@ video editing team. If you have bit torrent, download PowerDirector 6.0 (there's version 7.0), so that we'll all be using the same version. Happy exploring!! Though I'm pretty sure you guys won't do that, isn't? *** poor teik is talking to himself again ***
Here's the link anyway PD 6.0

29 comments:

YRAG said...

i think that shooting in various location can be done dividing into groups at certain location... for example... 6 people at pocket D, 6 people at chanselor hall... and sing a few parts... then... we find a good location and call up all for a full group shot...
Then we record the song separately... Then edit the video that we capture...

Teik said...

Derrick has pointed out that choir singing might not appeal to most of the guys (that was his opinon). If it's true, then perhaps we should reconsider a different approach. As Gary & Jackie have mentioned, we shall shoot at various location in UTP. We will be divided into few different groups and take shots at various locations in UTP. Then we will record song separately and interlace with the video later.

Now the question is
1) Do we have the right software to do this? How do we filter out background noise (& filter out on the spot singing)?

2) Anyone here knows how to overlap our recorded singing into the video later on?

Advantage of doing this
1) As we break into smaller groups, we do not need to have everyone gathered at the same time (maybe only one part)

2) Appeal to more friends. Maybe making it more MTV-like would excite you guys more. But it'll make video editing progress longer.

3) Video more interesting as we have UTP backdrops included.

what do you guys think? Please discuss. Otherwise we wouldn't know what you're thinking.

Jackie Voon said...

gathering at various locations..with less ppl..seems like a more valid reason for guards not to catch us for illegal gathering...
on the video and sound editing, i think we need to ask around for studio recording facilities (if necessary)...if we really need the equipments.Oh, video cam?normal one? if we're intending to use our own basic digital cameras/DVcams, the videos would be quite shaky. Somehow think that the video and audio output should compliment each other...

Teik said...

Studio recording facilities? Where to get? Let's not make it so complicated lo. I was thinking just using normal DVcams if got. Camera don't move, but people move, otherwise if hand held camera will be quite shaky like cloverfield. Use tripod. Still the question remains. How to filter out background noise, and overlap our recorded singing in the video? Someone in our batch capable to do that?

Anonymous said...

actually right.. i think hor.. erm.. it would be best if all of you can gather and sing together.. bcoz that is the point.. getting together.. that is the chance when all wil be together n sing for the one last time.. tat is jz my opinion la.. but i also understand that it is hard for all.. well, I wil always support u guys' decision! all the best!

khaiyi

Anonymous said...

we need a director for this video shooting, so everything will run smoothly.. every1 will follow what the director/assistant director says. it will make things much easier

im voting for jackie of course!! yay yay...

YRAG said...

mu suggestion is...
for video
the video is taking separately and for one time... we will gather all and capture one full group one

for song
on the day when we gather everyone, we will record a full version one shot...

Advantages...
1. in video, no matter how loud is your background, the thing u need is just to move your mouth... no need to sing it out... so no one will complain that you are noisy... and... separate group video will reduce the video taking time since every group will take it in their preference time (but the video editing part will increase):P

2. we will still sing together because we will have at least a full group singing session...

3. for the song quality issue... may be during the full group singing session, we find a quite place (may be church if they allow) and record it if we do not have high tech equipment... or we ask people record and each of us may need to pay a bit since we got ~40 people---> suggested by someone in my house now... haha

YRAG said...

Oh ya... if taking separately... khai yi ming hwa they all can take separately in aussie... then we edit it in the video... so it is more mobility

Teik said...

Just sync lips? I don't think those MTV are made like this. It'll be weird isn't? That aside, what about other background noise? cars passing? birds? Can we mute the camera instead when recording?

I don't support going for a third party recording. It's important that we do this all by ourselves, no? More meaningful? Don't have to be Oscar worthy, just something good enough for remembrance. If make too fussy, later our friends pull out. I don't know what the rest think about this... If only more ppl will give their opinion....

JACKIE, up for the director part? Anybody else want to volunteer?

Jackie Voon said...

no no!! dont listen to fushen!
i dont think i can be director.
no music sense also....i support teik hui! *both hands up*

Teik said...

Nah, I can't be director, hands too full already. I wana be in the t-shirt designing team. Plus I be coordinator mah..director not my field. Anyway, if no one wants to be director, it's ok too. Not like we're going to shoot a movie! We just need some cooperation form everyone and listen to the choreographing team. Thus far, non of those came back with any suggestion. So let's few of us here do that shall we? Come let's discuss how many groups shall be break into? how many location (looking at how voting is going, i suppose we will shoot in different location after all)? shall we stick to the same group and only all come together at the end? lai lai lai... please respond. Don't keep quite.

Teik said...

Ok to make things less complicated. We don't have to practice singing before shooting since we are going to record our singing separately. Few suggestions here:

1) We break into 5 groups according to our course: civil, chemy, ee, mechy and IT/IS. Shoot according to these groups

2)No need to practice singing anymore. Just choose locations and do your own style of shooting

3) One person from each group in-charge of shooting. Shooting style and location up to their preference.

Macam mana?

Jackie Voon said...

okay also...no objections..=)

Anonymous said...

bagus..bagus... ^_^

Anonymous said...

errr...teik...

if its bout unity...
dont u tink we should somehow do some shootings "together"...???

nyway.. just my little opinion.. ^_^

Teik said...

I wanted to! But looking at the response here, I'm not sure whether it can be done. I'm not so sure anymore whether you guys really want to do this, except a handful.

But the idea is, we shoot in smaller groups to make it more managable and then combine them in the video. We will have one large group shooting still, preferrably to be put at the end of the video. Then we may record our singing separately and insert in the edited video.

Up to you guys. U guys prefer whole shooting with 40+ of us? or like the one suggested above?

No opinion is little Ed. Thanks for giving them. I really really appreciate it.

Jackie Voon said...

erm..1 possibility that might happen is...when each group tends to hand in the video at different time...if that's the case..it would be difficult for the person compiling..(well..im not 'putting off the fire'..just looking into possible things that might happen...perhaps we could set a deadline for it..since we're aiming to finish it by august..

Teik said...

yah it's ok to hand in different time cause that's the point of breaking into different groups isnt? - they can shoot at their own free time but of course they must not procrastinate too long la.. haha...
wei jackie, why everyone so quite a? I tot our batch very happening wan? Maybe we should just order the t-shirt and take a group picture instead of making a video... =P

Anonymous said...

nono! video more interesting mar.. :)

i support teik's idea...

"But the idea is, we shoot in smaller groups to make it more managable and then combine them in the video. We will have one large group shooting still, preferrably to be put at the end of the video. Then we may record our singing separately and insert in the edited video"

hmm... more time allocated for video editing?

mid august deadline for handing up video?

end of august... finish off video?

^_^

Teik said...

Yea time-frame roughly like that. Depends on how fast we can finish off the video.. I tot wana order t shirt after confirm design but I scared u guys buat tak tau then i sure bankrupt! Sumre only a few ppl have seen the design, another 90% ppl how? Who can guarantee i'll get back money? Plus i duno how many ppl actually wants the tshirt. If go back collect money then only order shirt will waste another 3 weeks or so b4 shirt arrives. Then shooting may take some time too... At the end, all frustrated then tak jadi! hapus dan mampus.. =P

Anonymous said...

haha.. hapus dan mampus...

i think everyone will be willing to fork out some cash for the t-shirt kot...

its not like its gonna cost a lot right.... somemore... all baru lepas intern... confirm got cash wan! hehe...

put beside the names in the entry in this blog with all of the names who said 'yes'...

whoever pay u de... tick 'paid' in the blog itself...so everyone know their status...hehe...

^_^

Teik said...

I'm a little bias now. Design B-black stood our more to me. hehehe...

Ed, I need more ppl to confirm whether they want the shirt or not. So far I only know less than 10 person who've commented either here or have used the chatbox.

Guys, are you willing to pay for t-shirt? and before intern ends? to expedite the ordering process?

Fu Shen said...

alahhh edwin.. i know u earn in euro, we guys back here earn in ringgit malaysia only. wanna zha us is it? haha.. jokin jokin, dont kill me ya =p out of topic btw.. ;)

btw, im in for the t-shirt. BLACK!!

Jackie Voon said...

im in! and i want the shirt! count me in also!
hmm...as for the shooting..if without the shirt, we could still rehearse...
well..we go back UTP around 20th...settle fyp stuff, say around 2 weeks.(then it would be 1st week of August).
from the first week we're back to uni...we'll have 6 weeks till the end of August..assuming we take up the first 4 weeks for rehearsal,preparing the shirt, and shooting the video (including take-2, take-3, take-4, etc.) then we would have 2 weeks to compile the video....what do you all think? that's excluding the assignments and tests....

Anonymous said...

yea... agree with jackie bout the timeline...

i tink everyone sure can somehow squeeze some free time between assignments...tests...and watever else right...

^_^

*cilaka shen! kutuk la now! haha..~

Teik said...

rehearsal? i tot we eliminate rehearsals? hehe.. I don't know. Maybe can organize course wise. person in charge of that course really have to be pushy. Compile video it's ok.. can do slowly. Just hope can finish shooting early... We need actual meetings when we get back. If all agree with course-wise shooting can we now get volunteer to get person in charge for each course? Well if no one wants to head Chemy group i'll make myself available. I don't wana force anyone to do this. If all not agree with this method please please please please say something.

Jackie Voon said...

perhaps we 3 guys can make the video..hahah! every other scene is us...and only us singing..lolz! damn weird...not right...so others!! PLS REPLY! no excuse....its not that you're not free..its just that sometimes you dont care only...whoever you are....ehhehe.no offence..but do reply!!=)

Fu Shen said...

chill guys, no need so angry.. really thank you guys for the effort. this video gonna mean something special to us. so lets do it!!

my suggestion is, why not we gather every1 during 1 weekend (nobody goes anywhere during that weekend, all stay in UTP). so we take the whole day to complete the video. 1 day, kau tim all. but need every1's cooperation. how bout that? during that day, we can do whatever we want..

btw, how bout video camera n props? im sure we need some props (cardboard, background, n etc). if not our video gonna be just us singing, quite boring leh.. hehe.. just my 1 cent opinion btw. keep up the good work!!

Teik said...

Wah Jackie sounded like the hulk. K K, listen to Fu Shen and Joey. Gotta chill a bit. Nothing much can be done now except to list down the things to do once we get back. Hope everyone still keen on this video by then ler..